Comments on: Say It Isn’t So http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/ one woman's view from a place by the zoo in the city Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:49:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Elaine http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-58002 Elaine Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:56:30 +0000 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-58002 Gloria: I have no problem with switching parties...truly. What I have a problem with was making the effort to vote AGAINST someone. Rather than focusing on what we don't like, it would be wonderful if we could identify what we are for. What was done by these voters was dishonest, duplicitous, and manipulative...more importantly, it will not bring about the best scenerio for everyone. I can (and will) not expend my votes against a person; I will not vote for someone I don't support. Frankly, I am concerned that I won't have a vote to cast in the next presidential election. There is a female candidate, a hawk, for whom, in good conscience, I cannot vote. Wow. Gloria:

I have no problem with switching parties…truly.

What I have a problem with was making the effort to vote AGAINST someone. Rather than focusing on what we don’t like, it would be wonderful if we could identify what we are for.

What was done by these voters was dishonest, duplicitous, and manipulative…more importantly, it will not bring about the best scenerio for everyone.

I can (and will) not expend my votes against a person; I will not vote for someone I don’t support. Frankly, I am concerned that I won’t have a vote to cast in the next presidential election. There is a female candidate, a hawk, for whom, in good conscience, I cannot vote.

Wow.

]]> By: Loraine Ritchey http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-57332 Loraine Ritchey Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:44:35 +0000 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-57332 he original struggle with becoming a Democrat ... just so I could vote in the primary ... can be found here http://thewomblog.com/?p=455 Loraine he original struggle with becoming a Democrat … just so I could vote in the primary … can be found here http://thewomblog.com/?p=455 Loraine

]]> By: Loraine Ritchey http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-57331 Loraine Ritchey Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:40:47 +0000 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-57331 Gloria, being a "true independent" .... whatever that is :) I too got your point, I don't think I would class my self as on the fringe ( more in the mix) or " a reactionary KKK member or a communist zombie".. but then I am no good at games http://thewomblog.com/?p=500 Loraine Gloria, being a “true independent” …. whatever that is :) I too got your point, I don’t think I would class my self as on the fringe ( more in the mix) or
” a reactionary KKK member or a communist zombie”.. but then I am no good at games
http://thewomblog.com/?p=500
Loraine

]]> By: GloriaFerris http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-57242 GloriaFerris Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:14:30 +0000 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-57242 I never advocating not allowing people to switch parties. In fact, I believe I said that IF the reason for switching was a change in philosophy then do it. My question remains is it worthy of any voter to switch parties so that the outcome is more advantageous to the REAL candidate or REAL cause that they promote? All I was asking that people search their hearts and make sure that the reason they were switching parties was a GOOD reason for themselves because after all it is your own conscious that should be your guide. I am glad that the self-professed" communist zombie" got my point because she is my daughter. I never advocating not allowing people to switch parties. In fact, I believe I said that IF the reason for switching was a change in philosophy then do it. My question remains is it worthy of any voter to switch parties so that the outcome is more advantageous to the REAL candidate or REAL cause that they promote? All I was asking that people search their hearts and make sure that the reason they were switching parties was a GOOD reason for themselves because after all it is your own conscious that should be your guide.

I am glad that the self-professed” communist zombie” got my point because she is my daughter.

]]> By: Blog440 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-57034 Blog440 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:13:42 +0000 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-57034 The alternative is to not allow voters to switch parties as they desire. Infinitely worse than a few "switchers" trying to manipulate the vote. The alternative is to not allow voters to switch parties as they desire.

Infinitely worse than a few “switchers” trying to manipulate the vote.

]]> By: Henery http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-57003 Henery Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:20:13 +0000 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-57003 And for what it's worth, Gloria, I saw an article about this in Wednesday's Plain Dealer, so it seems it does happen, more often than people want to think. And for what it’s worth, Gloria, I saw an article about this in Wednesday’s Plain Dealer, so it seems it does happen, more often than people want to think.

]]> By: Roman http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-56977 Roman Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:25:33 +0000 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-56977 My points still stand Gloria. My points still stand Gloria.

]]> By: Henery http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-56875 Henery Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:05:07 +0000 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-56875 Gloria, I've spoken to a lot of folks, A LOT, that have done that very thing. Changed to Dem to vote for Hillary because there's a much better chance of McCain beating her than Obama. Is it right? Is it wrong? Is it ethical? Who's to say? Obviously, it's permitted. One can vote for whomever they would like, they can choose party affiliation or change it however many times they like. I will admit to doing such a thing in a local race because of the way an individual corraled votes, and did favors so that folks would vote for her. She was a complete waste as a public representative and her only reason for running for one more term was so she could receive some sort of public retirement assistance for having served for the minimum 10 years or so. In my eyes, she milked the system. She contributed nothing, and was and still is completely out of touch with her constituency and with the state of things in general. Was I wrong? I don't think so. There were more folks more deserving and much more capable of helping the city than she could ever dream to be. As far as Rush's involvement in the situation is concerned, I listen to him if I'm driving when he's on, but never heard him advocate such a thing. I'm not saying he didn't, just that I never heard him promote that plan. But that is the big question now, isn't it? Is voting 'against' someone as acceptable as voting 'for'someone? We talked about such a thing in Lorain a few years back, as Republican Craig Foltin was elected to Mayor, not so much was he voted "FOR" as much as, some of us believe, his opponent was voted "AGAINST." Makes one think, doesn't it? Gloria,

I’ve spoken to a lot of folks, A LOT, that have done that very thing. Changed to Dem to vote for Hillary because there’s a much better chance of McCain beating her than Obama. Is it right? Is it wrong? Is it ethical? Who’s to say? Obviously, it’s permitted. One can vote for whomever they would like, they can choose party affiliation or change it however many times they like. I will admit to doing such a thing in a local race because of the way an individual corraled votes, and did favors so that folks would vote for her. She was a complete waste as a public representative and her only reason for running for one more term was so she could receive some sort of public retirement assistance for having served for the minimum 10 years or so. In my eyes, she milked the system. She contributed nothing, and was and still is completely out of touch with her constituency and with the state of things in general. Was I wrong? I don’t think so. There were more folks more deserving and much more capable of helping the city than she could ever dream to be.

As far as Rush’s involvement in the situation is concerned, I listen to him if I’m driving when he’s on, but never heard him advocate such a thing. I’m not saying he didn’t, just that I never heard him promote that plan.

But that is the big question now, isn’t it? Is voting ‘against’ someone as acceptable as voting ‘for’someone? We talked about such a thing in Lorain a few years back, as Republican Craig Foltin was elected to Mayor, not so much was he voted “FOR” as much as, some of us believe, his opponent was voted “AGAINST.”

Makes one think, doesn’t it?

]]> By: KT http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-56862 KT Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:21:38 +0000 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-56862 "I hope that each and every one of you voted today for someone that you believed in and not because you thought that that person would lose in November." this communist zombie understands your point that it has nothing to do with republicans/democrats, but being honest with your vote. “I hope that each and every one of you voted today for someone that you believed in and not because you thought that that person would lose in November.”

this communist zombie understands your point that it has nothing to do with republicans/democrats, but being honest with your vote.

]]> By: Gloria Ferris` http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-56844 Gloria Ferris` Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:17:52 +0000 http://www.gloriaferris.net/2008/03/say-it-isnt-so-take-two/#comment-56844 Thank you Roman for your comment that "there is so much dumbness in this post I don't know where to begin" because it certainly allows me to say that you are not a critical thinker or a worthy adversary. You see, Roman, to be considered that you would have had to let the comment above out of the discussion. Calling someone stupid, illiterate, or even a bit crazed doesn't really add much to the discussion although it may be personally satisfying for a few moments; therefore, I always refrain. Thank you Roman for your comment that “there is so much dumbness in this post I don’t know where to begin” because it certainly allows me to say that you are not a critical thinker or a worthy adversary. You see, Roman, to be considered that you would have had to let the comment above out of the discussion. Calling someone stupid, illiterate, or even a bit crazed doesn’t really add much to the discussion although it may be personally satisfying for a few moments; therefore, I always refrain.

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